The Conversation That Changed Our Church

Friday 4th


Ever had an impromptu conversation with someone that changed your life? Well, that happened for us in a coffee shop right outside of Presence in 2018.

In fact, that conversation didn’t just change our lives, it changed our church. No drama, just truth. It’s my honor to write this blog. I hope that in reading it, your lives and churches will be changed too.


During our last morning’s breakfast, Jeff’s phone vibrated. It was a message from Ps Jurgen Matthesius asking if we wanted to grab coffee just before the first session. Although I had an outfit change waiting at the hotel, and my jet-lagged self wanted some down time, we decided the impromptu coffee was well worth the fashion sacrifice.

So off we rushed! Of course, Ps Jurgen beat us there. He was cooly waiting at the counter, ready to treat us to an almond milk flat white and a large long black. We sat there, chatting through a few minutes of pleasantries, when Jeff went for the jugular. There we were, having a fun visit, and Jeff jumps into the deep within the first five minutes! My eyes grew wide at the quick change of vibe, but I decided to follow along. After all, time was short! We had nothing to lose and everything to gain.


“So Ps Jurgen, you have this unbelievable gift for recalling scripture. I read my Bible and study a lot, but I don’t even come close. What’s your secret?” Jeff asked. Ps Jurgen reached into his man bag and out comes an intensely worn paper edition of The One Year Bible. He answered, “I read this through every year. Each year, I just change versions. That is the secret. That’s it.” As their conversation continued, I immediately went on Amazon and bought a One Year Bible. I wanted it waiting for me when we got home. When we arrived home, there was one waiting for Jeff as well. Turns out he had ordered one too!

When you ask for advice from your overseer, follow his advice!

To be super honest, I had ALWAYS judged One Year Bible readers. I felt like they weren’t consuming God’s word, just checking it off. However when your overseer speaks, you shift your thinking! Jeff and I began reading immediately. Just two months in Jeff said, “Sunny, every member of our church needs this. Just imagine what could happen!”


So, on December 16, 2018 we handed out 900 beautifully wrapped NLT One Year Bibles to every member of our church. Since then, even 9 months later, the feedback has been astounding!

Just like Jeff imagined, we walk by conversations regularly – members going on about that day’s reading. Small groups are being formed JUST to discuss the One Year Bible. People that occasionally read their Bibles are now reading every day. People that NEVER read their Bibles are reading all the time!!

Our church isn’t only growing in numbers, the people in the church are growing in wisdom and understanding.

It’s been incredible! Honestly, it’s the best investment we’ve ever made.


On December 15, 2019 we will be handing out 1000 beautifully wrapped NIV One Year Bibles to everyone in our church. Just like Ps Jurgen suggested – new year, new translation. We are confident that the results will again be astounding. Until then, we are on the edge of our seats!

God will move again, we know He will: “I will build my church and all the powers of Hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven.”
Sunny Kane
October 14, 2019

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